Windows Server - anti-virus and anti-spam

Asked By Johnfli
20-Oct-08 06:16 PM
I am looking for a good anti-virus/anti-spam software for my SBS2003 box.
I run exchange, so I would also like this software to monitor all incoming
and outgoing emails.
I would also like it to be able to tell if there is aclient machine that
seems to be pushing a lot of emails through it.  (meaning if there is a
virus, or malware on a client machine and it's usign the exchange server so
send out spams)


thanks
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Antimalware
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Kaspersky
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  Chuc replied...
20-Oct-08 06:31 PM
You might want to check out Sophos Small Business Edition. Have been using it
for over 4 years now and find it to be one of the best.
  Amnon Feiner replied...
20-Oct-08 06:40 PM
I use Trend Micro worry free version5, and like it very much.

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Amnon Feiner
  Cliff Galiher replied...
20-Oct-08 06:46 PM
There are a couple of issues there:

1) Regarding antivirus/antispam software, treat those as separate products
on the server.  A good antivirus software will include client monitoring as
long as you by enough client licenses to monitor all of your clients.
Symantec, Trend Micro, CA, NOD32 all play in this space.  Each environment
is different and each sysadmin has their own preferences.  Download trial
editions and test drive them until you find one that *you* like.  After all,
someone could praise Trend Micro all they want, but if it breaks your LOB
custom-written inventory application then all that praise does you no good.
Testing for yourself is the only *real* solution.

2) Treat Antispam the same way.  Although some companies may 'bundle' their
packages, when installed they still operate very differently. As well they
should since are trying to accomplish different goals.  And maybe you like
Symantec's corporate AV product but not their exchange-aware antispam.  So
you may end up mixing and matching....NOD32 for AV and GFI for antispam.
But the only way to find out is to download and test.  Each sysadmin has
their own preferences for ease-of-use vs configurability, so there is not a
whenever possible my installations include a UTM firewall with spam
filtering.  That way I don't even have to install "yet another" product on
my SBS box at all.  Spam is stopped before it gets there. But that is a
personal preference.

3) As far as monitoring for compromised machines, no product will do this
accurately.  Antivirus software should be viewed as a protective measure.
It is good at keeping bad stuff off of your machine, but if something bad
*does* get past the AV then why should you trust the AV to know it.  The
malware has already shown that it circumvented the AV once, so it could lie
to any heuristics engine the AV tries to employ.  Or simply disable the
product in the background and sent false "ok" messages to the monitoring
server.  The simple truth here is that spotting an infected machine requires
diligence on the part of the IT department.  Reports of a machine behaving
poorly/slowly is a good sign.  Monitoring the weekly usage report will show
any malware using Exchange to send mail (unlikely, BTW.)  And monitoring
firewall logs (you do have a firewall, right?!?) will reveal any machines
attempting to run their own SMTP server for spamming (far more likely.)  So,
as you can see, finding a  bad machine doesn't come from one piece of
information such as an AV snap-in, but comes from aggregating *all* of your
sources for information with a pinch of plain old experience added to the
recipe.

Hope that helps,

-Cliff
  Amnon Feiner replied...
20-Oct-08 06:49 PM
True, I forgot to add, my TM is AV, and for anti-spam for Windows based
clients is Surf Control.
  John replied...
20-Oct-08 07:53 PM
And checkout Microsoft Antigen for Exchange with Antigen Spam Manager
If you will be moving to SBS2008 eventually then it uses Microsoft
ForeFront (old name Antigen) antivius/antispam and it's fully
intergrated within the new SBS...comers with multiply antivirus
engines Sophos, CA Vet, Kaspersky,Norman Data Defense, Microsoft
Antimalware .it's a lowish cost 12mth subscription...30day demo.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/bb738101.aspx

Cheers
Out_theBack


On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:31:00 -0700, Chuck

You might want to check out Sophos Small Business Edition. Have been
using it
for over 4 years now and find it to be one of the best.



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  Duncan McC replied...
20-Oct-08 07:38 PM
Chuck@ says...

I will back that up - excellent product, albiet one of the dearer
solutions, seems to be one of the best.

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Duncan
  JimGrau replied...
21-Oct-08 04:30 PM
Hello, Johnfli:

My replies/comments are in-line, below:



I have been using Sunbelt Software's Ninja E-mail Security with great
results.   They have a fully-functional eval version, and I heartily
recommend including it among your test solutions.
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Best regards,
Jim Graue
  Neil Hoskins replied...
22-Oct-08 09:24 AM
The only choice for anti-spam if you want to have control over it is ORFEE.
I'm running Trend for anti-virus at the moment but regretting it; I've had
two worms and a drive-by come straight through in the last few months when
they were picked-up instantly by the NOD32 that I use at home.

NeilH
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